I guess this whole Grouply thing just means that now owners have two new responsibilities:
(1) constantly watching the group-related message boards for information about invading third party services and other risks, and
(2) educating all their co-owners and co-mods about it.
It’s not enough to just know how to use the Management settings in a group. And Yahoo’s Moderator Central is weak in reporting things that many of us regard as problems and risks, though not useless.
You know how well that will work. Many group owners and mods barely know how to use the service, much less become experts in third party issues.
Maybe someday Yahoo! will accommodate us by providing a firewall that by default blocks all third party access, and provide a checklist in Management settings where we can opt-in to third party services we want to offer our groups.
(One can dream, right?)
Otherwise, the whole notion of free online groups is going to go bad in a big way, and serious moderators of serious groups will have to sign up for a paid system that is truly secure. It shouldn’t be expensive, though, given the continually decreasing costs of running a web service.
Did you know that there is a core team of GrouplyFans calling themselves Grouply EVANGELISTS?
I enjoyed noticing that it’s in the FINANCE section of YG. Should be in the religion category.
The home page says:
“The Grouply Evangelist Program is a select group of Grouply users who help define and select new Grouply features and who broadly communicate the benefits of Grouply in order to expand the Grouply user base.”
That “broadly communicate” thing? Spammming. Why don’t they realize that spamming as a promotional tool is self-defeating? It just arouses the ire of group owners.
Their other tool: propaganda blogs and groups. But they’re not the only ones who can play that game.
Evangelist? Hmmm. Not a bad word for it, really. When you dig into what it’s all about, and its roots in the history of web-scouring hooking-up for commercial purposes, it does tend to feel sorta like a kind of religion … or like a cultish thing that can give you the willies.
How much ya wanna bet a dollar (as my cousin useta say when we were kids) that these evangelists would scream bloody murder if someone spammed their group and members’ personal email addresses with commmercial messages for a service they don’t want, don’t need, don’t like? They’d declare something like a jihadist war.
Grouply Evangelist Program group:
Fairly active, I guess …
Nov 07 = 47
Dec 07 = 410 (!!! – no wonder Grouply became such a hot topic recently)
Jan 08 = 181
Feb 08 = 55
Now I guess they’ll move to some other cave.
Given that kind of activity, and Grouply’s spamming machine, and YGOG and EL-M and GrouplyImprovements mods defending and advocating for Grouply, and their activity in the blogosphere, there is a NEED for vocal activism to counter the Grouply propaganda, to protect our groups and members and what integrity is left in the whole idea of free online group services. If we don’t take a stand now, as other third-party invaders come along YG will never be the same.
Eventually I hope to be able to point to some investigative reporting on the core people behind Grouplyfication of the web’s free groups services. It’s not just Grouply. As always, follow the money. It leads right to their front door.
– UnGrouply Atheist
(no offense whatsoever desired or intended toward adherents of true religions serving the spiritual good)